After only four visits with Adam and Dr. O I have been pain free for approximately two months. To me, it's a miracle. Prior to my visits here I would go to chiropractors and my pain always returned within three days. I have two small children and I'm always up and down. My knees were giving out and I was always in pain. No more! I actually enjoy playing with my children again. They do not try to force any supplements on you; I actually asked for anything that might help. I do use one supplement for repairing cartilage. Unfortunately, I don't always remember to take it. So even more proof that they have helped me tremendously, even without any meds.